Pointers from Satsangs: Part 2

1. Idol Worship : When God is all-pervading formless Being. Why do religions confine God to an idol? What is the use of idol worship?
The divinity of the all-pervading God is vibrant in every atom of creation. ((for a typical human of 140 pounds there are almost 7*1027 atoms  and 37 trillion cells) where is not a speck of space where He is not. If this is the number just in 1 human body…… What about 7.2 billion population and what about entire living and non living population of the universe ???????its unimaginable and speechless ………..
Why do we then say that He is not the idols?
The idol is a support structure for the beginner in a long spiritual journey . Just like you need to graduate from elementary school , but the goal is PHD.
Spiritual progress is a BIG and LONG yatra or journey
It is a start of a persons spiritual childhood. A form or image is necessary for worship in the beginning. It is not possible for all to fix the mind on the Absolute or the Infinite. A concrete form is necessary for the vast majority for practicing concentration.
Idols are not the idle fancies of sculptors, but shining channels through which the heart of the devotee flows towards God. Though the image is worshipped, the devotee feels the presence of the Lord in it and pours out his devotion unto it. The idol remains an idol, but the worship goes to the Lord.
To a devotee, the image is a mass of Chaitanya or consciousness. He draws inspiration from the image. The image or idol guides him and helps bhakta to the next phase.
Idol worship is not peculiar to Hinduism. The Christians worship the Cross. They have the image of the Cross in their mind. The Mohammedans keep the image of the Kaaba stone when they kneel and do prayers. The mental image also is a form of idol.
All worshippers, however intellectual they may be, generate a form in the mind and make the mind dwell on that image. Everyone is an idol worshipper. Pictures and drawings are only a form of Pratima.
For a gross  mind it needs a concrete symbol as a prop or Alambana; for a subtle mind requires an abstract symbol. Fir example most of the subtle minded Vedantins has the symbol OM for fixing the wandering mind. So, idolatary should not be condemned but taught the right meaning and essence instead of blind worship.
But what happens when a child fails 10 th grade 10 times, is there a value to it ????
Same thing , we should graduate from temple worship and idolatary worship to universal God and eventually see God in everything as ” sarva atma Bhava ” and than get the PHD that is realize that you are the walking temple , you are the walking universe , every brain cell is connected to the entire cosmos , entire brahmanda is ALIVE and watching .
Feel the divinity in you
Hari Ohm tat sat
2. OneNess: At fundamental level we are all connected  as ONE , everything is connected to everything. This is the highest spiritual attainment .
3. Religion and Spirituality : Religions are different from spiritualists, for religionists temple is where God is, for spiritualist or jnani he or she is the walking temple and God is everywhere and everything, he doesn’t differentiate with a dress code or symbols and is beyond worldly religions and rituals , for jnanis all world is one and all beings are one.
Religions and philosophies have always limited human beings to a set of rules and never made them think out of the box with complete spiritual freedom for clear love of eeshwara .
SANATHANA dharma is not a religion it’s the mother of all spirituality , whereas Hinduism is a religion and as a matter of fact research says most of the religions of the modern time originated from spiritual university called SANATHANA dharma.
Study the lives of saints like Thyagaraja, Ekanath, Narsi Mehta, Bhadrachalam Ramdas, Tukaram, sri rama , sri Krushna ,Namdev, Jayadeva, Chaitanya and Kabir  they are in  grihssta
Ashrama and followed SANATHANA dharma , they never said they were followers of Hinduism , all religions are modern concepts and are limited and never really help mankind reach the final goal of life, no wonder we see so many wars and killings in the name of religion.
Buddha never taught Buddhism , it came long after he was gone, Jesus never taught Christianity , it came 200 years after Jesus was crucified , same with Jainism , Islam , same with advaita or vaishnavism, the original teachers never invented anything, they followed SANATHANA dharma, people later on created this “ism” and philosophies for there selfish motives .
The kind of destruction , killings and misery that’s pounded on mankind is shameful, because religions root is based on control, supremacy , power , politics and of course money
Know the truth and get free from the shackles of all this man made disturbances and silly concepts my dear bhagavad bhandus, life is beautiful God ‘s gift .
Christianity just like  Hinduism has 200 plus sub categories example Catholics , baptists , protesters etc etc
Most of the people don’t know this and think only in Hinduism there are categories like shaivism, vaishnavism , shaktism etc etc
But each Christian category teach differently like Mary is great vs Jesus is great and they fight too snd that’s how Columbus discovered America .
They are only looking at that level ONLY at the person level not beyond the subtler states beyond what made a JESUS  Into THE JESUS
Hinduism whereas is born straight as a twin of SANATHANA dharma and older Hinduism used to be very close to it and in modern days became corrupted , explores the subtler states and deals with multiple inner layers and koshas that made  a JESUS  Into THE JESUS
That’s why Hinduism has some mysticism, but can also be explained as science .
A good teacher can remove the sheath of mysticism in Hinduism , but unfortunately heads of religious organizations are too busy with there agenda and exaggerating mysticism to make people be slaves to them and live in superstition and fear and not telling the truth
spiritualism cannot be known , it has to be experienced into every bit of ur blood . Til than go to temple, but don’t go to temple as regular temple goers with a barter system attitude. go with a sense of what is going where feeling, than you will know your own answer.
What it means is , just think about who is the goer of the temple ???? Where is he actually going???? What is he going for ???? What is the bhakta doing after going to temple ?????
All this answers are in you already and u will know ur answers, just find answers for them and be utterly truthfull to yourself and answer will become narrower and narrower and will be become so super small and finally u will know the big answer that will bowl you away into INFINTE TEARS of joy. You will discover ur REAL SELF,
Enjoy every moment of it.
Feel the divinity in your hearts, you are the walking temple.
Hari om tat sat
4. Birth and Death : We are never born and we will never die and what you thought as real or told as real is a total utter terrible lie.
Physical frame is a costume sir, manifestation needs a costume . All costumes are jada or inert matter .
For example : we all saw a dead deer on the highways , what happened to  it?? we see the form lying on the road but it’s not moving , what is it that was inside it that made it move all this time ???? And what’s happening to it now???
Slowly the Caracas lying on the road disintegrates and blends into pancha Bhutas , and eventually the whole body disappears from that spot after few days….. Where did it go ?
Costumes are designed by the pancha Bhutas and when dissolved goes back to pancha Bhutas.
 They don’t have any Conciousness of there own the prana shakti pours iConciousness in to it.
A person lost his hand in a accident , he used to take such good care of it by applying cream to it and nice oils to it and on that day of accident the hand departed from his body , but the hand was lying around there and doesn’t care for this guy who cared it so much , than he understood oh my god this body is a jada. I had attachment on this and it doesn’t have any attachment on you , because it’s a jada. It’s doesn’t have any feelings.
But once manifestation occurs evolution  happens in space time and causality and it continues til the self merged into infinity and no costume is ever necessary .
This change in costumes with evolution is called rebirth , when evolution stops at one point , it starts again with different costume til it’s final goal is reached.
This is the symbolic meaning of GARLAND to the murthy in temple . Different flowers means different costumes, but one life means the one string that goes through All the flowers and all that goes  to swami means surrendering to him all under his control .
This body and the world is empirical reality or relative reality , it is vyavaharic satta. It is an phenomenon  or appearance with start date and end date , so cannot be taken as eternal or real , that’s the law of nature , all phenomena is brief , we learnt it in science classes in childhood.
Only Narayana or EESHWARA or atman or Brahman is eternal  …….every thing is just an appearance or a phenomena or relative reality or vyavaharic satta
What is the original state of sanatana dharma aka Hinduism?

5. WHO IAM I : Dear brothers and sisters, life is precious and a beautiful gift and we are born for a reason and its not random,

 Experiment it and find it out. You can start it by searching “WHO AM I”. Are you a body or a soul? If you consider yourself a body, you are limited /unhappy / in pain. Actually you are not a body. When you are in deep sleep do you feel your body? The answer is “no”. Does that mean that you do not exist in deep sleep? No, you existed in deep sleep also. It means you existed without body also. Accordingly you are not body. Then who you are ?????????
6: Hinduism:
The word pure Hinduism is itself a misnomer .
Hinduism as you see today is the distorted version of Sanatan Dharma. Just like Warangal’s original name was Orugal and Kakinada’s original name was Kokanadamu , same with sanathana dharma over time got distorted into Hinduism, it came with time with no actual inventor as a reference object by foreigners or outsiders  , who used to refer , just like the modern societies refer outsiders as  andhrites or telanagites or Punjabis or Indians.
 Actually Hinduism was name given by the group of people who was UNABLE to understand the actual nature of the SUPREME SELF to a group of people who were trying to reach the self.  Before the name “Hinduism” was given, the act of the people who were trying to understand the nature of self was called “Sanatan Dharma”.
The Vedas and Upanishads on which Hinduism is based do not contain any word named “Hinduism”.
 Hinduism in its confused glory is because it source was from people who were confused brought nothing but confusions and terrible disturbances to peacefulness and got stuck in caste systems, multiple gods and idols, relegation of women as inferior gender, sati system, temples , rituals, Animal sacrifices, desires based rituals, supremacy of one caste over the other etc etc etc
It might come as a surprise, but no where in VEDAM, there is mention of temple, It only mentions to pray fire  or agni and its attributable objects as the main god.
 That’s why the first sloka of Rigveda starts with Agni——-
 “AGNIMILE PUROHITUM YAJNASYA DEVAMRITVAJAM, HOTARAM
RATNADHATAMAM.”
 Sanatan Dharma means old / unchangeable nature. If you directly translate “Dharma” from Hindi to English it will mean religion. However the Dharma word with Sanatan does not mean religion as the layman understands it today. Dharma refers to real nature of Human being. This nature will not change whether you consider yourself to be of any religion.
Just like nature of the fire is to burn, the nature of the human being is to remain happy forever. You can judge by yourself. Whenever we are unhappy we try to come out of the unhappy situation as soon as possible. We do not want to remain in it. Now analyse the situation when you are happy. You will always try to remain in that situation for a longer period of time as far as possible. Accordingly the nature of human being is to remain happy forever. Just go deeper and you will find that all our act in life is to make ourself happy.
However since human being has diverted its way because of ignorance he / she is experiencing pain / sorrow in this life. Accordingly how to achieve our actual nature of always remaining in bliss. Sanatan Dharma makes us aware of that only. Accordingly whatever religion you follow does not matter. Ultimately you have to make yourself aware of actual self i.e your true nature.
Go into yourself and discover WHO AM I”. Are you a body or a spirit???
you are not a body. When you are in deep sleep do you feel your body? The answer is “no”. Does that mean that you do not exist in deep sleep? No, you existed in deep sleep also. It means you existed without body also. Accordingly you are not body. Then WHO ARE YOU REALLY ?????
9 .  What is outside world :
Dear family
The world that you see outside is the world projected by you. God did not create the world to dump it on you, you are the creator of that relative reality called world because of ignorance.please know that and than get the real freedom in life .
We are the reason for our own miseries and sufferings , there is no other person responsible for it.
We shud learn to accept our mistakes and criticism and weakness , only than u can go close to God .
Til than all temple visits , yagnam , puja, dhanam etc all is for spiritual entertainment and to build a spiritual ego.
Which is disastrous for a soul evolution and will cause even more suffering .
So is escaping from the world and running into the mountains and becoming sanyasi is the answer ???
 Absolutely No .Escape from the world is not the goal, but freedom from worldliness is what is desired, while still living in the world .
It’s like a boat in a river , it stays in the water but does not drown in it, but sails thru peacefully . Our lives shd be like that . Grihssta ashram a us the perfect system to sail thru like that boat for a sincere sadhaka
Selfless social work will give great guidance for life towards coming close to God .
The value of self less social work, however, is purely subjective. It is not that one makes himself a great reformer or a saviour of mankind, but that he offers his ego as a sacrifice at the altar of universal love and so obtains purity of mind, which is the basis of all spiritual progress. For a realized soul, however, it is an urge born out of compassion for his fellow-beings, for the love of vasudaikakutumbam .
Feel the divinity in your heart dear family.
Your are the walking temple and one step higher, you are the walking universe.
Hari Om tat sat
10:  Where is nature: Where is the nature ???? You are the nature …. All there is the pancha Bhutas including your natural costume we are wearing.
Our bodies are no different from panch Bhutas
Brahmanda = pindanda
Big nature outside = small nature as body and mind.
Actually pancha Bhutas is wrong too, because pancha Agni vidya says as follows:
Earth source is water , water source is fire , fire source is air , air source is space and space source is hiranya gharba.
All originates from EESHWARA .
So all what u see is not world but just multiple configurations of pancha Bhutas with divinity as the driver behind them , including the people reading this message.
Pause for a second and question ….. Who is reading it ????
Don’t think it’s ur eyes they are jada not even ur brain or mind , it’s a jada too? Not even prana shakti, it’s jada too….. Than who is the reader of this message ???????
U know the answer , that’s it ur free
Freedom from life and death, miseries , pains , NOTHING will ever touch u, when u know THE ANSWER
11: Self Less Giving :
This is the natural inherent law of nature itself.
Paropakar means giving without expecting anything in return or selfless giving .
Paropakaram Vahanti Nadya, Paropakaram Duhanti Gaaya Paropakaram Phalanti Vriksha, Paropakaram Idam Shareeram
“Rivers flow for Paropkar, Cows give milk for Paropkar, Trees bear fruits for Paropkar, similarly this body is also meant for Paropkar”
Also isopanishad says ” Tena tKtena bhunjitaha”
Which means rejoice in giving away selflessly .
Every thing in nature is already doing it.
For example look at a tree, when it’s alive it gives shade, fruits, leaves for medicinal purposes, and it does its seva even it dies by giving wood for fire or furniture or for making paper etc
We are the only species consuming everything that’s nature is giving .
We are nature too, we should align ourselves with nature, be generous and loving to the world , BEcause GOD is LOVE
12: God and Teacher : When you are going through difficulty and wonder where GOD is remember TEACHER is always quiet during the test..  is teacher quite ???
Teacher is not quite , but wants u to use all the knowledge and love he or she gave u already , so the teacher is not away, but so close to you that he holds ur hand as his teachings in the form of jyanam  and strength, courage in your mind.
So the test is God and solving knowledge is also God
He loves us so much , he is never never away or quite
13: Going deeper into your self :
So What if we are super successful?? So What if we are super rich ??? So What if we are super powerful??so What if we are enjoying luxuries every second ??? …..
So what ???????
Everything falls of if you really don’t know who you really are, all the above dreams a worldly person creates above mentioned will some and one day for sure will fall off .
Feel the real freedom , space,immaculate happiness like the one on a baby, you will know what we are.
When you go deeper in to your own self, no one has to explain anyone what is the definition of God ??
Most of the people talk a lot without practicing anything , they are called politicians .
Empty vessels make more
Noises.
I say please do sadhana and talk abiu God , how sincere are we to sadhana…. Not no one cares or outs efforts ,but every one whoe has a mike talks so much ….. Dear family they are outward and fake only.
What is God? Some kind of eternal miracles doing person , sitting there always listening to our silly wishes and desires???
Is God some kind of a King , and we are his eternal slaves  and he is demanding eternal songs if praises on him for ever??? We know such kings are not real kings.
Is he a name or place or a thing or a object or what is the definition of God ???????????????????????
How do u want to see.
Than what is the definition of God ?????
 The problem is we are very badly stuck in our minds , how God should be?? We have already decided for him how he should look like and we also decide , what he likes and what he doesn’t like.
Every thing In our lives are preprogrammed and pre fixed, and concept of God also became one like that.
Drop all those concepts and pre programmed theories that all our minds are so busy with all the time, than you will know him.
You can never see him.
Iam in ashburn ? My sister in newjersey ? My parents in india and where is God???
He is in heaven.
Yaah right that’s the problem with mankind —- always outward looking.
Look inside , if you don’t know, than learn from some one and practise everyday twice a day, early mornng and night and you will feel in your heart:
You will watch your breath closely, it sings the eternal song of ‘Soham’,
“I am He, I am He”.
It reminds of the identity
Of the individual soul with the Supreme Soul.
There is no break in this song,that natural  music goes on day and night.
There are 21,600 breaths in a day, in that state Body-consciousness vanishes,
Time and space disappears
‘I’, ‘you’ and ‘he’ melts away,
‘This’ and ‘that’ evaporates
‘Here’ and ‘there’ dwindles away
It is all one mass of consciousness,
It is an ocean of bliss.
The seer, sight and seen became one.
All distinctions and differences melts away
Now tell me how else do you want me to describe the indescribable.
Iam trying very hard to explain beyond this, buts iam not getting words , I give up in explaining and describing that HIGHEST BEUTY .
Than I realize what vedam said :
God is none but SAT CHIT ANANDAM
Beingness , conciuosness  and love
Satyam gyanam anantham brahma.
Feel the divinity in your hearts.
You are the walking temple
Hari om
14. Beef eating Hindus :
Dear family,
Those who are tracking news lately, the buzz is about ” beef eating Hindus ” a separate group that’s created claiming Hindus has been eating meat meat since Vedic period  and beef eating is not a sin.
Western media caught hold of one of some self proclaimed indian historian  ,US professor MR. Kuncha Illiahs , he made big statement in western media on this hypocrisy of Indians supporting beef eating
Yes the fact is true that during Vedic and post Vedic periods cow slaughter was highest and it is one of the reason for Buddhism to be born, but they are non sadhakas living as sadhakas who used to eat it and got addicted to it.
Western media is having fun with this and making fun of india.
I wrote an email to MR . Illiahs condemning his enthusiasm to speak in media without verifying facts and without looking at it from spiritual angle too.
This started as cow slaughter is getting banned in indian since modi govt and rss is acting on it .
Not just beef , all meat eating on medical, psychological, moral and spiritual grounds should be banned.
Chandogya upanishad in chapters 6 very clearly says The mind is made up of the essence of the food that a man takes. Tamasic food results in a Tamasic mind. Meat is Tamasic and hence should be avoided.
When an animal is killed or butchered, a contraction of its nervous system takes place on account of fear. (you might have felt certain disturbances in your own stomach when you have experienced fear.) This leads to the secretion of certain poisons in the liver, etc., of the animal. These poisons are cumulative in their nature and are never removed or lost during the process of boiling or cooking meat. Hence, meat-eating is poisonous and dangerous in the long run.
There is no difference between you and an animal when both are considered as souls inhabiting the bodies. From whichever source you derive the right to live and enjoy in this material body, from that very same source, the souls of these animals have derived equal rights to live and enjoy in their material bodies. Hence, you do not possess the moral right to kill a single living being,bornhurtbanyine
however small it may be.
Last. but not the least, there is One Consciousness which has expressed itself in the form of the various beings, animate and inanimate. And this makes you one with all beings. When you have known this, will you consciously hurt any being? Can you willingly and joyously cut your own fingers and cook them and eat them?
Develop love for them and promote oneness
Hari om
14 . Love and Respect :
Dear family ,
If i can love your heart with out any conditions …… Where is the war???
While food is a daily need for body ,
LOVE , RESPECT, JOY , BLISS are needs of the default nature in all if us.
That’s why those who don’t have that in there lives and don’t share that to world are like Living dead already .
Towards that, lets start taking small steps by not saying Hi and Hello to your fellow beings, ( I understand you cannot say that at work , but at least at home and temple ) but start saying “Namaskaram” with a sense that the living God is standing right in front of you. When you meet your fellow brother, don’t shake hand; if possible give him a brotherly hug.
When you see or meet a female gender , feel the vibrance of srimatha tatva in her and call her ” Amma ” or make her ur sister.
Call others with a sense of respect , so that your ego never bites you , like calling ” sir”.
Calling “sir” doesn’t mean supremacy or superiority , it’s a way to succumb your ego and giving respect to the other person, so that your conduct is intact when conversing with the other person.
Can you imagine the values you pass to the next generation when we practise this in front of our kids ???
We are reaching them practically in action, not by preaching and they learn quickly from parents as we are there role models ????
Just sharing a personal experience, when I met a decent stranger few years ago at a temple in India and after some Vedantic talk, we were departing, and instead of shaking hands, I suggested if I can give a brotherly hug. Little did I know……. the tears of love and joy were flowing from his eyes.
Til today he stands a good friend and god given brother of mine, Make all your relations godly as they are coming into your life not as a people, but as a living god in disguise to teach you something or to give you love.
Hari Om Tat Sat
15:  Wife and Husband :
how many times did you care your wife like your child ??
have you ever given a warm hug and told her how proud you are for everthing she is does, for her shoutings and smiles
because she is There in your life ?
 how many times did we say its because of her iam getting fed, its because she cooks and feeds food for us and food keeps us alive ( dont say , you can get food outside too, if you spend some money, yaah
right, all sane people know how much food industry is killing peoples health and longevity with there added junk and chemicals to comestable foods, they are not adding health and love, they are adding poisons and death to you very slowly)
how many times did we took her in your arms and hold her the right way just like your child and put her on your lap and rubbed her hair ?
don’t you think she will do a selfless surrender to you ??
how many times did you “see her” through your eyes, instead of listening to judgements from others and branding her as so and so ???
do you know her pains ??
do you know why is she really sad ??
Hold her in your arms and make her feel like there is nothing in this world that can make her feel peaceful, than in the arms of your godly love.
Just in case if you dont know
…………….THIS IS WHAT YOU PROMISED ON THE DAY OF YOUR WEDDING WALKING AROUND THE FIRE GOD.
and the same applies for Wife to Husbands, nothing works in one way, its always two ways.
Love and peace starts from self first ,love yourself and love your family and than the world .
Feel the divinity in your hearts bhagavad bhandus
16: What happens during Nidhidyasana:
Dear family
What happens when 1000 watts of electricity goes into 60 watts capacity bulb, same happens after after a true intense Nidhidyasana session ??
Have you ever felt your heart vibrate in joy ??
Have you ever hold your chest that it’s going to explode ( unharmful but highly vibrant) after deep intense Nidhidyasana session????
Have you ever felt an impersonal beingness all around you??
Have you hair risen out of ur body electrified and stunned???
Have you experienced cold chills in your spine with tremors in your mid brain and top fontanel.???
Have you expiernced a joy so higher and so wonderful that nothing in this material world has ever given you and can ever give you??????
Have you tasted the taste of the your infinite tears of joy drooling down your eyes without ur conscience non stop , they just don’t stop, even if you stop ???
If yes than question, what’s happening than and there ???????
No more discussions , no more nothing is ever needed….. You are free, but you cannot express it, it’s beyond speech and indescribable , it’s unlimited freedom .
We are all wired the same way inside, Brahma anubava and brahma ananda is not meant for limited people , it’s for everyone and anyone can be that ( irrespective if religions, regions, languages,gender, etc etc),
all u need is consistent and dedicated SADHANA  and plenty and plenty and plenty of pure love in EESHWARA .
Feel the divinity in your hearts
You are the walking temple
Hari om tat sat
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18: What is illusion and what is Real :
So here is the question:
Brother,
 that is where the confusion comes for me.  If this is all a drama then why should I care for anything or anybody? If somebody is crying with hunger pains, should I say it’s all a drama or illusion and not help. Is that hunger or pain an illusion or real?
What is illusion and what is real?
Answer :
this might be long , but read it in leisure and no hurries
Here’s an example  that might help resolve your question, try and see if it makes sense:
From the viewpoint of ocean, water is:
·         one  (whole ocean, collected of a assortment of waves, is nothing but one and the same water).
·         all-pervasive (there is no part of ocean where water is not).
·         changeless (water remains H2O throughout the ocean).
·         independent (ocean cannot exist without water, but water does not need to be in the form of the ocean).
In contrast, every wave is different from every other wave in size, temperature, location, speed, power, every wave is changeable, limited, dependent.
Yet, when asked to touch the wave, we touch water. And on the beach, when asked to touch water, we touch the wave.
Each and every wave is nothing but water, but water is not the wave: the wave cannot exist without water, but water continues whether or not it is in the form of a wave.
Also, water does not change its nature as water to become wave.
So where does the wave come from? What changes?
The stillness of water, when disturbed, takes the form of ripples, waves, tsunamis.
 They arise out of the stillness of water and resolve back into the stillness. Water remains water whether in the form of stillness or in the form of wave.
So how does this apply to the relationship between eeshwara and the world ? drama, illusion and real ?? eeshwara is the intelligent and material cause of the universe, and he just manifests.
Just map this onto the above example… eeshwara  = water, drama or illusion = stillness of water, wave = manifest world.
Just as the stillness of water and water are not two separate things, so too illusory world is not a second thing that can exist independent of eeshwara. Water as the substratum of stillness or waveform remains unchanged in nature;
Water-wave is an example of the changing and changeless co-existing in the same locus.
The changeless Eeshwara and ever-changing universe co-exist, the former being real and independent,
the latter being drama/illusory and dependent. Wave and water are both seen simultaneously; what you see depends on where you focus.
Just as you don’t need to flatten the ocean full of waves to know that it is ultimately a manifestation of water, same like that one can with knowledge accepts the drama and illusory world as the lap of eeshwara.
Now to your other question , if somebody is crying with hunger pains what do you do, is it illusory ?
we go give some food with love, when there is only god as the water example above, god takes care of himself, someone( in the form of god) with love gives food.
Just like the big wave helps the small wave to be consumed into it from the above example, a mighty hearted person in godly form accommodates the hungry person’s hunger into him.
Food is the nature’s dharma for the body form to survive and be alive, body has 4 natural dharmas ( food, defending, resting and procreation)
Love is the highest nature. Everything is lowest, all lowest tendencies are getting purified to become the highest.
So love heals and helps all lower tendencies.
Karma yoga explains  perfectly how the real and the illusory merge towards a natural action with out conditions.
We can talk one of this days.
Hari om tat sat
19: Misconceptions about Brahma Gyanis:
Dear family
What a wonderful sri rama kalyanam celebration it was at our temple  yesterday .
But the word “kalyanam”, Reminds me of sri rama was in grisstashrama or a family life.
Ramayana being Such a popular itihasa,paints such a fixed image in our minds about rama ,
but when you read , understand and comtemplate ” yoga VAsista”, you will know a totally different picture of RAma.
He was total depressed person at age 17 ( even though by that age he had learnt so many vidyas and won kudos from everyone for his smartness and intelligence in various vidyas)
sometime living in loneliness away from people.
Well his thoughts just like any serious sadhaka was around……. What is this world??? What is God mean ???  Who IAM I actually ???
All those vidyas he learnt was in vain, because they weren’t answering him those highest and biggest and serious questions of his life???
Dasaradha was so worried for his favorite son , that’s when his parama guru VASISTA comes and starts teaching the brahma gyana.
Which moulds life of rama from a ordinary man to a divine man and a self realiZed brahma gyani.
Manavude madhavudu transformation .
As a brahma gyani , He does such a good job being a king, a husband, a son, a brother , a friend etc.
As a brahma gyani , a matter of fact he becomes father only after coming rescuing Sitamma from LANKA .
Almost same story with srikrishna , Study his life , he questioned the same at his tender years and know the truth  and he was a great king , husband , father, friend etc and never left his kingdom , but he is Brahma gyani too.
Same with janaka and  If you Study the lives of so
Many other other brahma gyanis like Thyagaraja, Ekanath, Narsi Mehta, Bhadrachalam Ramdas, annamacharya, Tukaram ,Namdev, Jayadeva, Chaitanya and Kabir  they are in  grihssta Ashrama as husbands  with families  and also they did a great job in there professions too.
Tukaram ji was a businessman , he did multiple dharmic and simple business , though a simple one , because he knows the brahma gyana.
There are so many misconceptions that some how creeped into our culture and mindsets, leading to confusions about brahma gyanis :
1.There is a common misconception in our societies that to be a Brahma gyani  and to learn the highest essence of EESHWARA , one has to run away into the mountains leaving professions , leaving wife and children , leaving family—— those are sanyasis belonging to sanyasashram , that’s comes after grihssta Asram in old ages.
2.i met some People who even think Brahma gyanis are dead vegetable and fit for nothing……. They are not dead vegetables , there minds work are so super fine state at higher realms and are so powerful they balance the nature that we complAin of rain , summer and snow etc
3. They are mad people: they look like it because there Truths and the way they live are hard to digest for common man.
4. Modern world will eat  them away:
They are so free from the modern and also the world , they don’t bite them , in fact brahma gyani smells the Modern person coming his way and Becomes alert , as his mind can grasp that.
5.they don’t have active life: some of brahma gyani’a are iAs officers and some ips officers , some vice president at big IT firms.
They are as active as normal people , except they are very very very different inside.
That’s why it’s hard to find them and recognize them as they don’t say anything and act unless a serious sadhaka with pure heart asks a QUESTION .
May the knowledge set us all free
Hari om
20: We are one:
Dear family
Iam not different from you and as a matter of fact no different from anyone .
We are all made of the same natural ingredients inside
We are all wired the same inside.
Once you know that , you don’t need google to find answers  or VEDANTA or write articles or books
All answers are in you and all articles in you and all VEDANTA is in you
Hari ohm
We never die, all this hungama about death is a mirage , body does not you .Body dies not the REAL self.We were never born , so where is death.
21: Manifestation and Evolution:
when you say we are never born, you are referring to soul, correct? The process of soul going into an embryo, developing as a baby and coming out mother’s womb …what do you call this process?
Right, that process is called manifestion and evolution
The REAL YOU is witnesser of that manifestation and evolution
You are that INFINTE awareness being who is witnessing all the drama unfolding in front of you called body and the actions of the body in th form of manifestation and evolution
Which both happen in space and time , that’s why Einsteins relativity theory  points toward the the illusory affect of space time dimensions.
22. So u say scientist Einstein is a Tatva Gnani??

Yes sir rishis are not different than scientists .

Rishis is a word most of Indians are stuck as we are from india , it doesn’t mean there cannot be be rishis from other countries and they don’t call them rishis in that part of the world .

If Einstein wears saintly vastras and wears all signs and beards etc and if he talks theory of relativity ,! Sure our Indians wud have build ashrams for him and made him baba

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